WP2 part 2 Part 1-2
Part 1
Comments that are effective
1. "College isn't everything. Skilled trades can pay just as much and are vitally needed to the economy. Students should not be bankrupting themselves for a degree they cannot afford. The US need people with practical, real world skills more than 4 year degrees and a mountain of debt. Ending the stigma surrounding trade schools and blue collar jobs would be a far better use of space in the NYT."-(Caroline)
This comment is effective because it goes in depth about how sometimes college isn't really worth it for some types of studies. One "move" that She tells us that there are other alternatives that people can use to get an education.
2. "Nothing is more expensive than " free" college. Professors aren't going to work for free. The campus and facilities aren't free. Students who are paying nothing aren't going to complain about the costs they aren't paying. Schools will raise the fees to the roof since the customers aren't complaining. And the taxpayers get stuck with every penny."-(Lamar Smith)
This comment is effective because Lamar has reasons as to why college cannot be free. A move that he tells us about is how many things that help the schools run are not something that can be run for free.
3."Even in very countries that have the most generous education benefits, such as Sweden, living expenses are not paid for by the government. Obviously, rural students would have the hardest time living at home. Hopefully, online education would reduce costs for many of these students. Luckily, here in NYC, all students can access a local college by public transportation."-(Common Sense)"
This comment is effective because this person brings in other countries perspectives. They show that tuition is not the only expense in college. The moves that this writer did was talking about how students who live far away form the campus it would be hard for them to live at home and go to school.
4. "I believe that this article is well written and makes several reasonable points. However, there are countless resources, many of them free of charge, that are available to anyone and everyone who is applying to a college. For the low income students who are excelling in their high schools, colleges will seek out those students and make them offers which would be practically impossible to refuse. For the below-average and marginal students, there is no shame in attending a local community college and gaining the requisite background/resources to navigate the complexities of college financial aid, etc. Small steps always come before big steps."-(MarathonRunner)
This comment is effective because the writer talks about ways that college can be paid for. They bring up scholarships which most people would not refuse.
Part 2
Comments that are ineffective
1. "So let's do it like they do in other countries. I'm sure most have thought of ways to help students with this additional hardship."-(Kaari)
2. "It’s all worth it if your education will pay off."-(Ed)
3. "Geez I worked my way through college to pay my living expenses - it really wasn't that much of burden and I picked up valuable skills from my jobs as a software application consultant, a marketing assistant at a local TV station, and a waiter."-(Chriva)
4. "No matter what you are doing - be it attending school, sitting in your parents' basement, or on your own and working - you need food and shelter. I don't think its beholden on anyone - other than self and family - to help out with the food and shelter part of the equation."-(GBR)
5. "Regarding the high cost of college, It would be illuminating to find out which budget lines have increased faster than the rate of inflation since the "golden years" of the 1960s and 70s."-(Larry)
These comments are all ineffective because they really don't have evidence to support their claims. They are just in my opinion commenting just to try to join a conversation. They have no "moves" in any of them.
Comments that are effective
1. "College isn't everything. Skilled trades can pay just as much and are vitally needed to the economy. Students should not be bankrupting themselves for a degree they cannot afford. The US need people with practical, real world skills more than 4 year degrees and a mountain of debt. Ending the stigma surrounding trade schools and blue collar jobs would be a far better use of space in the NYT."-(Caroline)
This comment is effective because it goes in depth about how sometimes college isn't really worth it for some types of studies. One "move" that She tells us that there are other alternatives that people can use to get an education.
2. "Nothing is more expensive than " free" college. Professors aren't going to work for free. The campus and facilities aren't free. Students who are paying nothing aren't going to complain about the costs they aren't paying. Schools will raise the fees to the roof since the customers aren't complaining. And the taxpayers get stuck with every penny."-(Lamar Smith)
This comment is effective because Lamar has reasons as to why college cannot be free. A move that he tells us about is how many things that help the schools run are not something that can be run for free.
3."Even in very countries that have the most generous education benefits, such as Sweden, living expenses are not paid for by the government. Obviously, rural students would have the hardest time living at home. Hopefully, online education would reduce costs for many of these students. Luckily, here in NYC, all students can access a local college by public transportation."-(Common Sense)"
This comment is effective because this person brings in other countries perspectives. They show that tuition is not the only expense in college. The moves that this writer did was talking about how students who live far away form the campus it would be hard for them to live at home and go to school.
4. "I believe that this article is well written and makes several reasonable points. However, there are countless resources, many of them free of charge, that are available to anyone and everyone who is applying to a college. For the low income students who are excelling in their high schools, colleges will seek out those students and make them offers which would be practically impossible to refuse. For the below-average and marginal students, there is no shame in attending a local community college and gaining the requisite background/resources to navigate the complexities of college financial aid, etc. Small steps always come before big steps."-(MarathonRunner)
This comment is effective because the writer talks about ways that college can be paid for. They bring up scholarships which most people would not refuse.
Part 2
Comments that are ineffective
1. "So let's do it like they do in other countries. I'm sure most have thought of ways to help students with this additional hardship."-(Kaari)
2. "It’s all worth it if your education will pay off."-(Ed)
3. "Geez I worked my way through college to pay my living expenses - it really wasn't that much of burden and I picked up valuable skills from my jobs as a software application consultant, a marketing assistant at a local TV station, and a waiter."-(Chriva)
4. "No matter what you are doing - be it attending school, sitting in your parents' basement, or on your own and working - you need food and shelter. I don't think its beholden on anyone - other than self and family - to help out with the food and shelter part of the equation."-(GBR)
5. "Regarding the high cost of college, It would be illuminating to find out which budget lines have increased faster than the rate of inflation since the "golden years" of the 1960s and 70s."-(Larry)
These comments are all ineffective because they really don't have evidence to support their claims. They are just in my opinion commenting just to try to join a conversation. They have no "moves" in any of them.
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